Wednesday, September 28, 2005

Filosophical Philms

People-- you know who you are-- have been discussing watching a philosophical film and chatting about it. Not my forte. Without explicit justification, I'm lost. But that's probably a character flaw. I should better. I need your help. Let's do it, maybe late Oct. or early Nov..

What film do you want to watch?

Suggestions have been made, but make them again, here, so we can compile them.



Blogger LD said...

Haha. We could watch The Secretary and discuss feminist philosophy (autonomy, willingly giving up autonomy).

This summer I really wanted to post something about the Rob Zombie films. I really enjoy both House of 1000 Corpses and the new one, The Devil's Rejects, but I cannot easily justify my interests. The films are violent beyond belief in my opinion. One scene in The Devil's Rejects made me feel completely uncomfortable, which doesn't happen often. I think that Rob Zombie pushes it to the extremes, not just for the chill factor. I would really like to hear what y'all have to say. What are the redeeming qualities? Do y'all think Rob Zombie is commenting on modern society with his films.

10:30 AM  
Blogger LD said...

I just saw the list. I have a few votes against: The matrix, Vanilla Sky, Minority Report, and Memento.

Cool Hand Luke would be a good movie to discuss. Everyone feels bad for Mr. Lucas War Hero, why is this? 'cause he's so good lookin'. grrr.

What about Drugs. Can we talk about drugs? WHy are they illegal again? I keep forgetting. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Naked Lunch, Trainspotting, Blow...

10:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

drugs -- requiem for a dream? though I must say, I've seen that way too much. (and it still makes me cry every time)

I've heard Waking Life is incredible; still haven't seen it though.

Unfortunately, so many of these movies are books... and personally, I would rather read the book. There are some exceptions, like A Clockwork Orange, because the book & movie are so different and affect one so differently, that they are almost singular entities.

OH! Oh! I vote for Brazil. Brilliant movie. Rosencratz & Guildenstern are dead, that's great too -- and so is Crimes and Misdemeanors. The world should watch more Woody Allen. I have Pi and Donnie Darko... And I haven't seen a large percentage of these. So anything anyone hasn't seen?

7:46 PM  
Blogger CSC said...

Bill Seeley, a philosopher and sculpter or otherwise doer of amazing things, will visit Centenary in November. He even knows something about philosophy of film. If we met to watch the movie on Nov. 10, he could join us. I've invited him and asked him to join in on the blog with suggestions.

Just so you'd know who he was. . .


11:15 AM  
Blogger Alysia said...

I know I'm not a huge presence on this blog, but I would just like to vote against some of the films that have been mentioned so far, especially Waking Life. I actually own this film, and while I suppose it discusses the meaning of life and all that is entailed in that, I view it more as a pretentious art film than anything else. This doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, it just means that as a springboard for discussion other than "That was a cool dream sequence" and "I TOTALLY didn't know what was real and what was a dream!!!OMG1", it fails. I haven't seen the list that is circulating, but judging from the ones mentioned, I don't think that these aren't philosophical films. They are more films that may possibly deal with an issue (drugs, sex, violence) but don't center around the philosophy behind them.

I know that Leo Kacenjar (possible Philosophy major? I'm pretty sure he's going to be one if he isn't already) is involved with the film society and was interested in this. He might have some suggestions, and I will talk to him tomorrow about it. My roommate is also the president for the film society, and I asked her about possible movies that are already part of their season and she mentioned one that is being shown next week on Oct. 18 and 20 called "What the !@#$% Do We Know?". Essentially, it's kinda a documentary but kinda a narrative. There is a description for it here:

Click me!

The "mystics and scientists" that provide commentary include lots of scientists and philosophers as well. Other than that, I will talk to Leo (I'm not sure if he's the one that has been talking about this, I actually haven't heard about it before) about commenting on here with some suggestions. I have also asked my roommate to talk to Dr. Hendrix to see if he has any suggestions, so we can get a few from the film side of our campus in addition to any that Bill Seely might provide if he joins.

11:15 PM  
Blogger Alysia said...

Okay, so I went through the older posts here and found the list. I think my main problem with this idea (as well as my problem with most of the movies on that list) is that I don't know exactly what we are looking for. Do we want a movie that simply has an issue as a theme that we would then discuss at length, or do we want a movie that has the issue as a theme and then actually discusses/addresses it within the movie? My roommate just spent the last 10 minutes talking about possible movies with me, and between her and possible suggestions from Bill Seely and Dr. Hendrix, we should be able to find something to do if we really want to do this, as long as we have something of an idea of what we want.

Also, Ashley (the roommate) wanted to know if our group as a whole could deal with slower paced, arty films or if we would rather something that moved along faster, as that would help in finding something as well.

11:37 PM  
Blogger devin said...

There are a few different films i would suggest:

Gattaca - A movie centered around the possible future of genetic engineering and the ethical implications it brings. People whom are engineered are treated as first class citizens while the "god children" or the natuarally conceived are discriminated against and treated as second class citizens. One of my favorite movies.

Jacob the Liar - Movie about a jew in nazi germany who lies about having access to a radio and gives false reports about the russians coming to save them. This could easily fall into a discussion about lying - especially in terms of deontology vs. utilitarianism.

Lord of the Flies Classic case study of human nature. From my limited knowledge of Hobbes, i think it deals with contract theory and a little bit of game theory.

Blade Runner Another one of my favorite movies - what makes a sentient being and the struggle for one's personal identity.

10:09 PM  
Blogger CSC said...

Hmm... I heard a story about Gattaca just this morning. Sounds good to me.

Any more suggestions? I'll give it another week then make up a ballot for voting.


5:30 PM  
Blogger LD said...

if we're going to watch a movie about genetic engineering, we should just watch The Fly.

10:42 AM  
Blogger Rachel said...

I just noticed the title of your post. Hahaha. Clever.

7:35 PM  

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