Thursday, September 15, 2005

Oct. Meeting

The question:
What do you owe to the community you grew up in?

Community: Neighborhood, church, school, school district, local government, state government, etc.

Family- A person grows up in a city and he/she has brothers, sisters, parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents, and cousins that live in the same city. The parents and grandparents of the person will continue to live in the city for the rest of their lives. Is the person obligated to stay there out of concern for his/her parents/grandparents, ensuring that the community prospers for their benefit.

Neighborhood- The children who played with you on your block reinforced or exposed you to important social skills (sharing, “playing nice,” playing fair). The interactions you had with their parents also exposed you to different parenting styles or rules of etiquette, making you aware of the differences within families.

Church- Help me out on this one guys....

School- *Free* school is cool. Your elementary and secondary school teachers put up with a lot of guff for very little money. Moody adolescents and unruly elementary school kids are not easy to put up with.

The community you grew up in provided you with the goods, services, and technologies that allowed you to develop into who you are today. You are a college student with a lot of potential. It seems unfair for the college student to leave his/her hometown forever. He/she benefited from the hard work of others (parents, teachers, pastors, lunch ladies, janitors, basketball coaches, etc.) and then moves to another city, enhancing the new location with his/her very presence.


Blogger LD said...

Ok, so no responses yet.
Is this topic just not interesting, or have I not given it enough thought yet?

If no one responds to this post, we are going to the default discussion of: what's the meaning of life?


6:27 PM  
Blogger Rachel said...

Hahahaha to avoid that whole meaning-of-life jazz...

*I* personally think this is a great topic... I tried to dig into it a little this summer, so I'm looking forward to longer, face-to-face discussion about it. But uh, until then...?

3:01 PM  
Blogger LD said...

Why do you think this is a good topic?

How relative would this conversation be if we lived in a more progressive city?

5:04 PM  
Blogger CSC said...

So maybe, to provoke people, we need to play this up by noting the dangers of either extreme view. If we owe people for what they did for us when we were young, it seems our whole lives are mortgaged before we even get started. People have done more for us that we could possibly give back.

But, if people can just cut and run, what is the point in investing in the next generation? How will states that lag economically or educationally ever get ahead? Leaving seems to abandon the people and the place that gave you a chance-- a chance you didn't earn. Only now can you make yourself worthy of what they gave you by giving back to them. . .

Or something like that. . .

Other formulations?

5:14 PM  
Blogger Mike_Schwalke said...

Cut and run sounds great unless you're left behind. Wm. S. Burroughs was a proponent of dissolving the idea of the family, seeing it as the germ of the nation sate--protect me and mine on the micro and macro level. In his view, this is an outmoded concept in the face of the Industrial/Technological/Informational revolutions. Also, for Burroughs, this ties into our discussion last May about the space program--space is already being corpratized and invaded by politics. We need new paradigms for new situations. "We are here to go," he said. These notions of responsibility and obligation are artefacts of civilizations germinal stage and they need to be cast off to make way for the new.

Of course this is the view of a misogynistic homosexual who shot his wife in the head and abandoned his only son (and namesake).

As I see it, we are born into obligation: you get squirted out and the next thing you know your rent is due. What a raw deal!
Many people believe we need police and governments to keep other people from bashing our heads in with rocks or physically harming us in some way, whereas Burroughs sees it the other way around. Aristotle is probably right--the reality is equidistant between the two extremes.

However, for all of these inherent problems, our system has done a whiz-bang job of fostering human creativity, which, for me, is just about the best thing we have going for us as a race. Language, art, architecture, this blog--all great. Sure, some have invested their creativity in making bigger and better implements to smash in skulls. You take the good and the bad.

In the course of human history the trend has been that people migrate from rural, sparsely populated areas to dense urban areas.

9:54 AM  

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